K Zildjian cymbals are known for their dark, warm sound that harkens back to the original K cymbals developed by Zildjian in 19th Century. Turkey. We use. All later Avedis Zildjian stamps have dot dot dash dash at the bottom of the Image: Zilco TRADE MARK stamp in WFL Catalog .. This seems to be the case in his original essay, and to have lasted until at least Avedis Zildjian info by year annotated with information and links: Avedis catalog lists Bop Flange Hats and Be-Bop cymbals 18″ to 26″ (Cymbal Book , p) AB change to pin lathing on K Cons; 15, 17, 19 crashes added.
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As in true Zildjian style, the cymbals are made adhering to their traditional formula of 80 per cent copper and 20 percent tin, with the occasional glimmer of silver. So have billiant or buffed cymbals.
But it may be difficult to dislodge ” stamp” as a term because it has become established. I have one cymbal with this 1. But when we talk about ” the three dots ” it is the ones in a triangle in the Ottoman section upper portion of the stamp.
First Stamp Writing These early cymbals sometimes have writing still present under the bell. It seems these came in the late s to early s. But all the lines are pretty much the same size in the no three dots Large Stamp. The stamp on this is the 3 dots Large Stamp, and in an overall view of the cymbal a trick of the light or lathing makes it look like the bell will be flat on top: But the “stamp” is not the cymbal.
Often the most obvious distinguishing feature is that the edges of the die stamp are pressed in more firmly and this shows particularly in the deeper Z of Z ildjian and o of C o. The assignment of years is not my work. I suspect but can’t be certain that in part it happened because of over generalizing from too few cymbal examples. There is more ink on the Pre Trans Stamp cymbals which can disappear with cleaning The Large Stamps seem to be very rare on small diameter cymbals, probably because of mechanical problems.
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The following image does a better job of illustrating the late 50s characteristic relatively bold ZILDJIAN and Ottoman sections, as well as showing how different the same die stamp can look depending on the details of how firmly it is pressed in and which portions are pressed in the most. These are the three dots in question. I just wasn’t paying attention to that sort of stuff. Feb 10, 6. It can extend out about an inch from the mounting hole.
The A form has the top portion of the Ottoman section missing, in the B form it is all there. Zilco for Ludwig and Premier late 50s Image: So all of these AZCO stamps can be generally referred to as s. The 20″ added range is 2, – 2,g and the 22″ added range is 2, – 2,g. I am not responsible for any of the pre s dates, I’m just compiling information painstakingly researched by Bill Hartrick and now in circulation around the web, most often with no acknowledgement of the original source.
This is because you don’t need to know the height of the stamp to spot one. In cymbals smaller than 18″ it may not hold, but there is a distinct lack of evidence on that. Trans stamp showing common features The height of the Trans Stamps vary.
So some letters are stretched and not a straightforward representation. These weight ranges start just above the previous weight ranges. I tend to treat all specific year references as “plus or minus a year or two”. The English portion changes in detail over time, but some changes can be subtle changes of alignment and relative location.
One Inch s Stamp on Earth Ride which really gives the game away that this is not a Late 50s Small Stamp since Earth Rides only came into retail shops in about If you haven’t got a way to know the size, there are still a set of features which allow you to distinguish Large Stamps from either the late 50s small stamp without 3 dots or or the 70s stamp without the 3 dotsor the s stamp s with 3 dots.
However, there are a couple of other differences between the s small stamp and the s stamp which zikdjian the difference clear given a decent photo. After that flat area the bell slopes away as usual.
The red and green arrows on this picture point out two features of this stamp. The IG year does have the cursive A.
But with a faint stamp it can help a lot. After the war there was a time when Italian manufacturers were making a Zinjian for Leedy and there zildjiam sometimes confusion between the two including the spellings Z i and Z e wandering back and forth when people write about it.
But I don’t believe Bill has ever published his 4 sub types with the official names and type specimens the photos and identifying features which zjldjian establish them.
Until at least the year JB the laser serial number appears at 12 o’clock just like the pre laser trademark stamps did. What about the sound I hear you cry. So provided that bottom line is well struck this is easy to check. We’re still zildjuan whether the two different stamp dies were used in different years, or whether they overlap in time.
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But you should always remember the uncertainty which is inherent in the years associated with all of these stamps. I can’t get his permalinks to work. Don’t panic, we’ll go zildjizn these all in turn.